Divine Irony

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"Tell people there’s an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure."

-George Carlin

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-Albert Einstein

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  1. Aesthetics, God, and Creationism

    deconversionmovement:

    thinkingtheist:

    religiousragings:

    Okay, this is far from a scientific argument, but it bothers me, so I’m going to post it.

    If God created the universe 6000 years ago, why the heck did he put us HERE?

    I mean, he could have put us anywhere. He could have created a different universe where there actually was a center, and we, or…

    uh no, the solar system isn’t “random.” It’s actually a very precisely organized world where gasses, distances, and gravitational forces must be within a very fine parameter. You are bringing up things like “the continents aren’t perfectly square,” or “the moon looks boring”; these are painfully trivial points that have nothing to do with the theory of divine creation. You say the earth’s “randomness” is exactly what we’d expect if the “scientific theory” of creation was correct - by which you mean the Big Bang. Well I concede that statement. If everything did come from an explosion of matter, we would indeed see randomness. In which case we couldn’t exist. Because as I said, there are many parameters in the universe and solar system that are imperative for life to exist, and that are anything but random. The rational person sees the scientific evidence of natural precision as very near irrefutable proof for a cosmic Author. It can only be the one with the incredibly strong presupposition that an Author does NOT exist who can disregard such potent evidence.

    Thanks for reading

    First of all, it’s gases not “gasses.”  Secondly, your god is no divine author.  Assuming the Bible, the solar system is wrong.  The Earth is a circle and it is held up by pillars.  Well, a circle and a sphere aren’t the same.  The area of a circle is pi(r)^2 and the area of a sphere is 4pi(r)^2.  The word of a perfect god would not get the math wrong.  Moreover, the Earth is held up by gravity.  Further still, the Earth was created before the stars.  However, that is impossible (read here).  Most solar systems are byproducts of supernova explosions.  Thus, the Earth could not have preceded the stars. 

    The Bible also posits that man was created by god in his present form.  False!  Man evolved from sub-human species and there is substantial evidence.  Read below:

    http://deconversionmovement.tumblr.com/post/9533372151/bad-design-proves-evolution

    http://deconversionmovement.tumblr.com/post/9470539078/atavisms-prove-evolution

    http://deconversionmovement.tumblr.com/post/9472465552/dead-genes-pseudogenes-prove-evolution

    Just in case you find me to be dishonest about those quotes, read the book for yourself.  Here’s a video from the man himself regarding his book:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1m4mATYoig

    Moreover, if that isn’t enough evidence, here’s a free course courtesy of Yale University:

    http://oyc.yale.edu/ecology-and-evolutionary-biology/principles-of-evolution-ecology-and-behavior/content/sessions/lecture02.html

    In listening to the lectures, you will hear the evidences.  I would also advise you:  do not and I repeat, do not present Apologetic pseudoscience.  That is nothing but unsubstantiated garbage.

    Earth is special?  Sorry, it isn’t (read here).  Many more earth-like planets have been found (i.e. Gliese 581g).  The Bible posits a 6,000-12,000 year old universe.  Furthermore, it posits that the Earth is just as old or even older than the universe.  Wrong again!  The universe is 13.72 billion years old and no time dilation does not account for its rapid expansion — an expansion that your Bible deems impossible in Genesis 2:1.  Well, given the expanding universe, the heavens and the Earth were not completed. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old.  The Earth is neither older or as old as the universe.   

    Big Bang you say?  There’s a new theory in the works.  However, the Big Bang theory is currently the best theory to explain the birth of our universe.  Furthermore, we do exist obviously.  Your statement is a speculative statement.  Your god is not the author; I am sure and I can provide evidence.  All you have is faith and faith based speculation.

    Side note: I don’t think the earth is “held ‘up’” at all. Seems to me that while we are gravitationally bound to our sun, and it to its galaxy, we are all constantly falling through expanding space. The idea of pillars makes no sense, not even metaphorically.

    (Source: skepticalavenger, via vertabrae)


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  3. religiousragings:

    deconversionmovement:

    Sam Harris on Christianity

    If you haven’t already, PLEASE watch this.  Honestly, I don’t see how anyone could argue the points that Sam Harris makes in this clip.  It is simply brilliant.

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  4. "The Bible may, indeed does, contain a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured human mammals."

     - Christopher Hitchens, god Is Not Great (via cocknbull)
  5. "Either the Gospels are in some sense literal truth, or the whole thing is essentially a fraud and perhaps an immoral one at that."

     - Christopher Hitchens, god Is Not Great (via cocknbull)
  6. "I remember a gentleman coming and telling us how very difficult it had proved to get the Bible into Tibet. There had been seven occasions: the first time, there had been landslides. The second time, it rained—the pages got stuck together. The third time, the mules fell off the mountainside. The fourth time, there were thunder bolts, and so on. The seventh time, he said, “God helped us! And we got the Bibles into Tibet.” The obvious conclusion is that God was trying like hell to stop them."

     - John Cleese (via cocknbull)
  7. "The apologetic “modern Christian” who argues faintly that of course the Bible isn’t meant to be taken literally is saying that it isn’t the word of God. He is, thereby, revising his faith out of existence."

     - Christopher Hitchens, In These Times (via cocknbull)

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  8. "Quoting only the happy verses in the Bible is like only talking about the driving parts in Grand Theft Auto."

     - Janus Saint (via janussaint)

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  9. Bible's New Testament filled with forgeries | MNN - Mother Nature Network

    (Source: worldcitizen1, via abaldwin360)

  10. ih8religion:

Bible zombies. 

Almost believable enough to base your entire life on it. ih8religion:

Bible zombies. 

Almost believable enough to base your entire life on it.
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    ih8religion:

    Bible zombies. 

    Almost believable enough to base your entire life on it.

    (Source: faqueers)